Curse

novawhiz · Feb 18, 2011, 05:18 AM // 05:18

BUH Will revive:

-Dead spirits
-Dead Summons from skill
-Dead summons from stone

Will not revive:
-Minions

Me + Friend have been going crazy. 10+ ruby djinns + a million spirits is lol stomping everything and anything. hoping to clear entire UW + dhuum before update lol

Malchior Devenholm · Feb 18, 2011, 05:19 AM // 05:19

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Originally Posted by Arieon Ito

I guess the BUH abuse will end when someone at Anet pops in and takes a look in here. Which will probably be around the time I get home from work. Darn, lol.

Anet's probably gone home by now. Any changes like BUH, the /deaths fiasco, and other associated bugs will probably be fixed in the morning.

Life Bringing · Feb 18, 2011, 05:19 AM // 05:19

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I would have to agree; spirits don't do any damage

LordDragon · Feb 18, 2011, 05:23 AM // 05:23

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Originally Posted by ensoriki

Possibly, anyways for the most part it's ineffective .

Agreed. The time it takes to set up a bunch of spirits just is not worth the 30 seconds of PB or SL based damage.

If you summon the spirits just once they do 1/3rd damage. Any more summoning and they do zero damage.

EDIT - As a solo. After looking at the pictures above, a team might work well.

Shayne Hawke · Feb 18, 2011, 05:23 AM // 05:23

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Originally Posted by ensoriki

Identify, confirm and report that Pious Haste is making my sin cry whenever it looks at Dash.
Where the hell was the obligatory 51% Dash or 60% dash

Access to the PH 50% requires you to have a Derv enchant to strip, which means you have to pay the cost for the enchantment and stance every time you want that movement burst. To get a similar output as Dash, you need at least two skills and a decent spec in Mysticism.

Overall, it's better than Dash in PvE if you're going to run (lol pious renewal + dwarven stability), but fair enough in PvP. Who would even bother really running Dash or PH in PvP anyways?

Avatar Exico · Feb 18, 2011, 05:24 AM // 05:24

playing with derv, here something survivor will be alot easier for new players, cause able to hit 1k+ hp at 20, probaly 600+.

novawhiz · Feb 18, 2011, 05:24 AM // 05:24

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Originally Posted by Life Bringing

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I would have to agree; spirits don't do any damage

they dont. But summons still use skills and do dmg. I have an entourage of 15 ruby djinnis right now.

And spiritleech + painful is more than enough when you got 50+ spirits

EDIT: yeah i am totally over spirits now. Summons is where its at. 100+ summons in your party. Walk into uw and just walk around watch things die. Pop a BU for nice running

Hells Fury · Feb 18, 2011, 05:28 AM // 05:28

Just went to UW with full party, hard mode. We all had spirits + buh. It's not very effective although it sounds and looks impressive. It's quite easy to kill aaxtes and darknesses. But wastes are nightmare. Need painfull bonds to make rezzed spirits effective and smites remove them regularly. Chaos planes(mindblades) are also innefective because hex breaker.+
We tried Escort quest and it takes forever. All in all not very good.

ensoriki · Feb 18, 2011, 05:28 AM // 05:28

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Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke

Access to the PH 50% requires you to have a Derv enchant to strip, which means you have to pay the cost for the enchantment and stance every time you want that movement burst. To get a similar output as Dash, you need at least two skills and a decent spec in Mysticism.

Overall, it's better than Dash in PvE if you're going to run (lol pious renewal + dwarven stability), but fair enough in PvP. Who would even bother really running Dash or PH in PvP anyways?

Having a Dervish enchant to strip is essentially required and they said it themselves, it is expected that you have a flash enchantment which are almost all under 10 recharge, and even then with Avatar of Lyssa thats no problem. Even if it was a problem you can combine IMS enchants with Pious haste

Flavor wise I'm disappointed, I play both professions but...im disappointed.
I demand a PvE split where Dash increases movement speed by 320%. for 7 seconds

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Just went to UW with full party, hard mode. We all had spirits + buh. It's not very effective although it sounds and looks impressive. It's quite easy too kill aaxtes and darknesses. But wastes are nightmare. Need painfull bonds to make rezzed spirits effective and smites remove them regularly. Chaos planes(mindblades) are also innefective because hex breaker.

Use Spirit Leech aura. For general purpose it will hold better, you don't need to hax the targets hexe for it to work.

Avatar Exico · Feb 18, 2011, 05:29 AM // 05:29

what also thinking, Avatar of Grenth with ranger using toxicity, constant AoE heavy degan

Shayne Hawke · Feb 18, 2011, 05:30 AM // 05:30

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Originally Posted by Life Bringing

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oh god, that is so out of control.

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237418 damage over 90 seconds
average of 2637 per second
15994 in a single second

I daresay that this is a record of sorts that is not about to be overdone with any future update.

ensoriki · Feb 18, 2011, 05:33 AM // 05:33

If this isn't one for the history books I don't know what is.
A-net should remember this and summon 100 spirits or something for halloween later this year.

Avatar Exico · Feb 18, 2011, 05:35 AM // 05:35

be perma Derv build coming up pretty soon, Pious Assault is just flat out OP when it comes to perma.

Hells Fury · Feb 18, 2011, 05:36 AM // 05:36

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Originally Posted by ensoriki

Use Spirit Leech aura. For general purpose it will hold better, you don't need to hax the targets hexe for it to work.

Will try. Overall all this mutiple spirit crap (while it lasts) needs some coordination with feast of souls + buh . In pug everyone just fires off BuH randomly.

HawkofStorms · Feb 18, 2011, 05:38 AM // 05:38

Can we split the stupid spirit BUH bug/glitch into a separate thread please? Yes, it is interesting and LAWL worthy, but there are TONs of other skills that need discussing in this update besides that.

novawhiz · Feb 18, 2011, 05:39 AM // 05:39

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Originally Posted by Hell Darkblight

Just went to UW with full party, hard mode. We all had spirits + buh. It's not very effective although it sounds and looks impressive. It's quite easy to kill aaxtes and darknesses. But wastes are nightmare. Need painfull bonds to make rezzed spirits effective and smites remove them regularly. Chaos planes(mindblades) are also innefective because hex breaker.+
We tried Escort quest and it takes forever. All in all not very good.

Only take 1 or 2 ppl to focus on spirits. ( need to coordinate BUH, and spiritleech+painful bond). Rest should take summons. Spend 10minutes working up 50+ summons and you just walk around UW and things die.

Avatar Exico · Feb 18, 2011, 05:41 AM // 05:41

wondering is plains farming will come back now cause kill spectres without using hex just use derv enchants awhile under SF, have SF recharged using Pious Assault, how I see it like this pull small mob have them infront atk using like Heart of Holy Flame than Pious Assault cast SF, repeat over and over again.

UnChosen · Feb 18, 2011, 05:41 AM // 05:41

This multiple spirit bug is definitely going to be fixed by tomorrow, so there is no point in putting too much effort into it.

Not that it really matters because it takes so much effort to set it up its not worth it anyways.

Hells Fury · Feb 18, 2011, 05:46 AM // 05:46

I won't bother with BuH glitch anymore cause it won't last.

Here's the thing that bothers me :
Since they partially killed WE scythe, is it possible that they could adjust the attack speed of a hammer to be 1.5 s too? This would motivate me to use hammer more often. This could probably affect something in pvp (and therefore they would have to adjust some warrior skills again), but in pve it wouldn't be that much of a big deal. I remember that anet said that hammers weren't so popular before. Even after that tactics / hammer skills update it is still kinda meh.

Kunder · Feb 18, 2011, 05:46 AM // 05:46

Quickening Zephyr + Serpent's Quickness to make sure you never run out of BUH time while soloing.